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Pathway to Alignment | Renee Russo | Episode 170



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Debra Chantry-Taylor  00:00

Welcome to another episode of Better Business Better Life. I’m your host, Debra Chantry-Taylor. And I’m passionate about helping entrepreneurs live their ideal lives by creating better businesses. I’m a certified iOS implementer, and FBA accredited family business adviser, and a business owner myself with several business interests. I work with established business owners and their leadership teams to help them live their ideal entrepreneurial life using Eos, the entrepreneur operating system. And my guests that come on to the show are generally experts in Eos, or they’re using EOS in their business. And they’ve used it to turn around their business.

Renee Eulant Eusso  00:44

All businesses needed a methodology to actually give themselves a fighting chance of succeeding. It seemed ludicrous to me once I knew about the operating system that any business should expect to succeed without this fabric. And I realized that 80% of businesses do fail in the first 10 years. And this is probably why. So I became an implementer. And then after a number of years doing that, and coaching implementers. And really immersing myself in that journey of helping business owners and their leadership teams master the simple tools and disciplines that help them get to the next level and the next and the next.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  01:26

So today’s guest is indeed a fellow certified a US implementer. She is also a certified exit planner and Value Advisor. And she has founded a really successful business that has a life coaching system to look after your entire life if you’d like both business and personal. Rene Russo is the CEO of rise up business coaching, and today she’s going to talk to you about how to live your life by your design. And what I mean by that is creating awareness that as the business owner, what you truly desire should be what’s driving the business as to how do you find out what truly is driving you. Welcome to the show, Rene. We’re looking forward to chatting about this.

Renee Eulant Eusso  02:05

Thank you so much, Debra. It’s exciting to be here. Yeah,

Debra Chantry-Taylor  02:09

Well, I always love talking to you. So you’ve been on the show before. So, um, listeners may have heard from you. But if they haven’t won it is give a little bit of a background about who Renee is, and what drives you.

Renee Eulant Eusso  02:20

Thank you. You know, it’s interesting when you talk about yourself and your story, as that story is informed by new data and your awareness, I find that it changes over time. And so more recently, I found myself explaining who I am and where I’ve come from, by starting with saying that I’m an accidental entrepreneur. I started my career in an accounting firm, why obsessed with this system of double entry accounting. And I wasn’t so much passionate about the numbers, but the system, the balance, the order and the flow of data through that system. And although the accounting piece, and that path was short lived, I discovered my passion for business, and my real desire to help businesses succeed. And I then turned my attention to people and thought that I would solve the problems a business with great talent. And time and time again, I would pull great talent into these businesses that would then continue to struggle. And it wasn’t until I married an entrepreneur myself and moved to Canada in the midst of his startup period, that I realized how much of a grind this running a business really was how difficult it was. And over the following 10 years through a lot of family trauma, medical trauma and a whole bunch of other things that were thrown in to that in our life. We really struggled to scale the business to grow it. I got to a point where I was frankly tied around how much the business owned us. And I was convinced that there had to be a better way, surely people did not start businesses to live a living hell. And my brother fortunately gave me a copy of traction, which I then used to self implement poorly in the business, but it still helped. And then I realized that all businesses should have a blueprint, all businesses needed a methodology to actually give themselves a fighting chance of succeeding. It seemed ludicrous to me once I knew about the operating system that any business should expect to succeed without this fabric. And I realized that 80% of businesses do fail in the first 10 years. And this is probably why so I became an implementer and then after a number of years doing that and coaching implementers and really immersing myself in that journey of helping business owners and their leadership teams master the simple tools and disciplines that help them get to the next level and the next and the next, as a few of my clients started to ask me about what it would be what it would entail to sell their business. And I frankly didn’t know how to answer those questions. They asked me if I would help. And I said, I will figure out how. And so I went to the Exit Planning Institute and got certified to become an Exit Planning advisor to help my clients get what they want. And I started them finding myself in the owners box, having really meaningful conversations with these business owners for many of them for the first time around what they really wanted. And how we could then ensure that the value of the business and the state that it was left in was going to be able to generate the opportunity for them to unlock their wealth tied up in the business. And so that has been formed my you know, my passion for helping business owners to unlock their wealth. In doing that, I realized time and time again, when I would ask them what they really wanted, after the sports car and the vacation home, what they really wanted. And I dug a little bit deeper below the surface, they didn’t know. Because a long time ago, they abandon themselves. They sacrificed everything poured their entire self into the business got so consumed in it, that this conversation of who am I what do I really desire was a past concept for them. So turning those lights back on for them, and helping them to go back into values and purpose and reason for being and what they desire their life to truly look like, has unlocked some of the most profound conversations. And because I’m so passionate and obsessed about systems, I became aware that just discovering that information wasn’t enough that they needed a system to manage their energy and live into their life by design, it wasn’t, it was almost worse to open up the conversation about what they really wanted, if I wasn’t then going to be able to empower them with a system very much like I do in business. So I in my firm now empower our entrepreneurial clients, business owners, with systems and coaching and a human centered approach to help them get what they want in life. And in business.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  07:09

I can see we share very, very similar passions. It is interesting, because as you were telling that story, I was sitting here thinking about when I used to run the Event Center a few years ago, as much as I loved what I did, it just became consuming. You said that you put your entire self into the business. And I absolutely did. There was nothing left over. And I think that can happen in any kind of business where you start doing what you love you immerse yourself in it but you lose yourself in the business because it becomes your everything. And it was really the the wake up call for me was my brother passing away and realizing that I hadn’t spent the time that I would have liked to have spent with him. And then mum passing away and again, it was like us didn’t spend the time I would have liked to spend with my mum. And I think that was a big wake up call for me in terms of life is too short. And much as I love what I was doing work is not everything. And you do you lose your you lose yourself in that. So let’s just say somebody’s sitting on this podcast now and listening to that and thinking yeah, that feels a bit like me, what is the first step to you think to taking a step forward and rediscovering who you are what you really want, because I think we do we get lost, we don’t remember what we started, why we started it or what we really want from it.

Renee Eulant Eusso  08:22

Totally, what I found is it’s not a light switch, you can’t just like go from complete abandonment of self to now suddenly I’m all about me and what I want. It’s a process time space and creating the capacity to do that. Creating the room for yourself is something that has to be developed. And I really do think it starts with changing the way we run the business creating space for the owner to elevate out of the day to day to start to reclaim at least some head space for self is the first step. So using an operating system or a simplified framework for running the business and empowering it with people process and resources to run without you is work that really needs to be started sooner than later. Because while you’re compressed inside of that business, consuming so much of your energy being an operator, it’s very hard to come to a point place where you can be Think of yourself and act as an owner, let alone a human outside of all of this so creating space for you to elevate to the owners box so then you can think about what you need from the business from a wealth creation financial stability, and make sure it’s secure as an asset is the second stage and then the third stage in that having the work doing the work around being a business owner. We need to there understand that we are looking at through the that role as a business owner through three lenses. What do I want and need from the business? What are I require financially to live my life? And what do I desire personally, intrinsically, what’s gonna motivate me to, you know, get up every day and live into my life. Those are three parts of that conversation. And Peter Chrisman said, the founder of the concept of the master plan says you need to have all three legs of that stool for master planning, we cannot just focus on the business or the financial house, then start to have conversations about the personal desires that work around personal discovery. It’s not easy. And it’s not instantaneous. And there’s a lot of clearing and a lot of processing and a lot of letting go that we need to do there. I definitely feel having the right professional support their coach, guide therapist, whoever is important, it’s hard to do alone. I also think using a simple methodology is important simple tools and principles. And I’ve read many of the books about the things I should do. And what I struggled was with understanding how. So applying kind of systems methodology like we do in the operating system for the business, it’s really powerful to use a very similar approach to self discovery, energy management, and then Self Realization as you start to build the habits to live into your life by your design. And then third, I would I really think is about surrounding yourself more with the people who elevate you, of who you resonate with, in spending less time with the people who don’t. Because when you do all three of those things with the right help, you know, a simple methodology, and peers that elevate you, you go into give yourself every chance to not only lean into the work, but continue the work. It’s a time space process. It’s one of discovery, unlocking, sometimes unlearning. And that needs to be supported. It doesn’t happen overnight. But as you start to practice that work consistently, it then starts to accelerate. So the those three pieces will help you drive more that consistency, and then get more of the results.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  12:41

I think that time space thing is really important. I mean, I think that obviously as iOS implementers, we have a proven process that also applies that methodology. It’s not like you can walk in on day one, tick a few boxes go yep, we’re done magic silver bullet, everything’s fine. And yet, of course, entrepreneurs can often be impatient because they, you know, they want to get things done really quickly. And they want to run before they can even walk. And I always find that when I work with a client, it’s always challenging, because in the first session, they’re super excited, and they want to get their CTO tan and launch into the organization. And everyone’s like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, this is a process and actually taking time in between the sessions is really important. Because that’s when you start to reflect that’s when you start to think more subconsciously about what is going on rather than just doing so you start to be rather than do and I think that obviously that applies, I guess in the in the in the bigger scheme of things where you’re looking at not only yourself, but your your assets.

Renee Eulant Eusso  13:34

And one thing that people have asked me recently, what’s the challenge with implementing an operating system in the business or in the owners box or for self application and the hard part and the thing that we need to be most patient with I feel based on my experience is the alignment process. And in the team, we’re kind of in the business for aligning human intention and actions and so forth. And, you know, in the Exit Planning, relining business and personal financial itself, we are often living in a very dysregulated disconnected way for a very, very long time. And we’ve normalized that. So it takes a lot of time, patience and compassion for yourself to do the work to come into alignment. I say head hard hand alignment, that takes time. The way I think aligns with the way I feel and aligns with what I take action on. And so when we do that work, aligning in the simplest form that head heart hand alignment. We then don’t need to try so hard Energy Alliance What we desire starts to manifest. And we magnetize the things that we need in our life. Because we’re in alignment, we are clear. And we are embodying that through our actions every day, the level of alignment and also the level of reward and results and things we desire in our life come from taking action. And so we need to do that small amount of work every day, moving forward, taking that bias to action, every single day, in some time, in time, sometimes the smallest of ways, like simply saying, I would love to do that. But in order to honor myself today, I’m going to say I’m sorry, but no, I won’t be there. Or, I would love to help with that. But in order to do that, I’m going to need to sacrifice something that’s really important to me. And so for today, I won’t be taking that on. That’s hard. We seek approval, we want validation, we want belonging, it’s the saying no, is very difficult, because we’ve spent most of our life trying to be fit to fit in and be accepted. The fear of rejection or in saying no often inhibits us from taking action and honoring self, Debra, my definition of freedom. In its purest form, yes, freedom of time, money, relationships, purpose, all those things are great. At the purest and simplest form, I believe, my I will say my interpretation or freedom is choosing self over all else. In the simplest of ways, I choose me, because I matter most. And if I don’t matter, nothing matters. I won’t get what I desire in the business, I won’t have happy and fulfilling relationships. I won’t have time for other passions and live into purpose, because I’m not honoring myself.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  17:07

It’s starts here. And I think that sometimes people see that as being selfish. But it is the oxygen mask concept, isn’t it as actually, if your cup isn’t full, you can’t help others. We haven’t got the oxygen mask on, you cannot help others. And so it’s not a selfish thing is that it’s actually about getting very clear about how you can help.

Renee Eulant Eusso  17:26

It’s funny though, the language and misuse of language fascinates me. I get asked all the time, why don’t people do Exit Planning, and I might because they misunderstand what the word exit means. When you exit a building, you open the door and you go somewhere else. And usually you have a desire to go there. Because you’re taking the steps to that door, you open the door you go through, and you’re typically pleased with what you’re doing on the other side of that door. Right? It’s a new beginning, it’s a new space. So when people talk about exiting their business, for some reason, somebody gave the world the impression that it means the end of all time. That’s what people think. And I’m like, who thought that told people that? And why on earth do people believe that? I have no idea. This word selfish means yourself ish, which means in my interpretation means a little bit of the time. Ish, you know, it’s warm ish means it’s a little bit warm. Right? So selfish tells me that I’m honoring myself a little bit of the time. What is wrong with that? And who made that a bad thing? Why can’t it be self more? I am myself more I honor myself more. I think we just need to change the language. And if we can’t come to terms with the word selfish, then let’s take it out of the vocabulary and switch it in with I’m aware of who I am. What intrinsically motivates me. I’m conscious around how I live my life. At the end of the day, I the only person I answer to is myself. I honor myself in the way I think, feel and behave every day. If I said to somebody, does that make me a bad person? I don’t know a single person that would say yeah, that makes you a really bad person Renee. So we got the language wrong.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  19:44

That is absolutely right. And I’m just written that down and that’s beautiful. So selfish a little bit me and what’s wrong with that? Let’s get self more. It doesn’t even mean that you are necessarily leaving the business entirely either right. There is a way to build other business that can where you got I don’t know, where you can either choose to take a different role within the business, or you can choose to sell it or you can choose to bring on board other people that can help you. There’s more than one way to exit plan. Is that right?

Renee Eulant Eusso  20:13

Oh, yeah. It’s so funny that you there’s I’m just gonna play on some of the language that he was mentioned there that the Exit Planning doesn’t mean that I’m necessarily walking with the business, it means that I’m planning that when I do transition, I’m going to leave this business in a better state than when I found it. Because without planning, if it’s an intention, chances are you may not leave it in a better position than when you found it. And that’s going to make it hard for the next owners to do something meaningful with it. And it’s going to make it very difficult for you to extract your wealth that’s locked up inside that business. So Exit Planning just gets us thinking and acting on the business now with future built of buyers in mind, ensuring that they will find the business attractive that the business will be ready for a transition. And when that day comes, you’re doing it as a business owner on your terms. And your timeline, you may sell a portion of the business to certain organization that has deep pockets and together then fully sell the business later. So we call that two bites of the apple, you may hand it down to generation, you may do a management buyout, you might do a full divestiture to sell it outright. In all those situations, it doesn’t matter what terms, what matters most is that you have options. When that day comes that you say I am ready for a transition, and you do so leaving the business better than when you found it. And you have the opportunity to take your money out of the bank, who would pour their life savings into a bank account, expected the value of that bank account would go down over time. And they would never be able to take that money out. I don’t know anybody who would do that. I therefore don’t understand why any business owner wouldn’t be expecting that the value of their business would need to increase over time. And at some point, they’re going to go to the ATM of their business and pull their money out and hand that business over to the next caretakers.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  22:41

Nice analogy, beloved. Okay, I’m gonna come back a little bit in time, if I may. Because, you know, this show is all about how we can build that better life through creating a better business. And you were an EOS implementer as well as an exit strategist. And you said that, you know, your brother gave you the book traction, and that kind of opened your eyes that thing you tried to self implement. Can you share with us a little bit about? You said that you I think you’ll come up with the exact words that you use, but I think did poorly yourself implemented poorly. And I guess I just like to understand how a self implementation for you and why do you think of it as poorly self implemented?

Renee Eulant Eusso  23:18

Well, the first thing is like I love Stephen Covey’s Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. And he talks about in that that implementing or making changes around any one of those habits will help. But when you embrace all seven in an integrated way, you get exponential results. And so when we self implemented, I didn’t understand the art and science of the tools because I wasn’t working with a specialist. So it didn’t understand the technicality of it. I took them at face value, read the chapter and then started to play with it. So I was practicing the tools but I didn’t understand how they worked. And so when I became an implementer, I understood how they worked. So a as a user, my ability to get the results I wanted through using the tools as they were designed, went up. Also I found that I was able I was able to and then found my passion for teaching other people the art and science of the tools and how they are designed to work so that they could realize the rewards from using them more successfully, then they would then sustain them over time. I like to empower people. I don’t like dependency. I like to educate, inspire, empower people to become their own Guru. And working with an implementer allows you first to be the student and learn how the tools work practice the mastery And then you can, then the teacher can disappear and you can become the teacher, so that you then can teach it to the next level and the next level. And that piece was missed, because I was really taking the tools at face value, and applying them. And I’ve missed the education and the understanding around how they work. And I feel as an implementer, we have the beautiful opportunity to educate, teach the tools, coach, the mastery of them. So they then are used effectively to get the results, then when we graduate clients and let them go, they were confident that they know how to teach this into the business.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  25:39

It’s actually really true. I’ve been working with a self implementer for the last year now, they had self implemented for a couple of years before I came on board. And don’t get me wrong, they’ve done a wonderful job in terms of what they knew and what they were able to do. But what Adams sort of shared with me was that by having an implementer, come in, yes, he got to see how the tools were used in context, he got to see how they were sort of, you know, designed to be used. But also, I think, more importantly, he said that he had the chance now to step away from being the facilitator, because in those sessions, he has been the owner and the facilitator. And it’s tough to do both, right. I mean, it’s not saying that you can’t, but it’s not an easy task to be able to be facilitating the discussion with the entire team, and also be participating as a participant of that leadership team.

Renee Eulant Eusso  26:24

Totally, totally, I agree with that. You’re already as a business owner, when the owners hat, the operator hat, the primary leader hat, now you’re trying to teach and coach and all those things, it’s exhausting. What I do like is that it also puts the entire team into a level playing field where they they come and they learn how to be a team. And they come into alignment. And so all people in the room get to come into that team formation that cohesion. And because nobody’s been the instructor. And so I think you’re absolutely right, that alignment is the hardest work. Even using the poor, the tools loosely, is going to be beneficial. But the real work is aligning the team around the vision, adopting the tools and disciplines, putting them to use continuing the work that the human alignment piece is the hardest part. So I feel like it’s just easier to get to a place of alignment when there is a master in the room guiding

Debra Chantry-Taylor  27:29

Yeah, and I think you mentioned something a bit early on as well, it’s in any of the three areas that you want to focus on you need it is easier, it’s not you need to but it’s easier if you have somebody to help guide you through that you can do all of this on your own if you really, really want to, but it’s going to take longer, you’re not going to have that expertise, you’re not going to have the outside viewpoint either to kind of challenge you on some of our thinking that is whether we like it or not is fixed because we’re this is what we’ve been taught or brought up in a certain way. So I think the idea of having somebody in each of those areas as you progress through is really important.

Renee Eulant Eusso  28:05

They’re so important. And then you mentioned something important, also the accountability, which I think is embedded, but I do want to draw it out. I have paid personal trainers, breath coaches, like people who are telling me to do things I already know how to do. And I thought to myself, Why do I keep paying all these people and coaches and is because the accountability mechanism, they keep me on a cadence and they hold me accountable to a higher state version of myself, they hold me to a higher standard, my clients joke that they’re afraid of me, and that, oh, goodness, we can’t do that don’t tell Rene and so forth. It’s, I think there’s a little bit of truth to it. But it’s mainly that they know, they’re not really letting me down, they’re letting themselves down. I’m just holding that standard up for them for them to see what they’re capable of, and holding them accountable to it. Not just accountable, but I’m holding them able, I’m holding them able to rise to that higher level, because I’m giving them the tools and disciplines to get there.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  29:08

And I think you write the cadence and it’s really why the level 10 Meeting works, isn’t it? It’s because you know that when you’re going into a level of terror, you’ve got teams who literally the the hour before the level 10 meeting are rushing around to make sure they’ve got everything done because they know they’re going to be held accountable for it and the cordeliers are the same. And, you know, I’ve got a personal trainer that I work with three times a week, I know I’m going to that personal training session, there’s just I don’t know, there’s a cadence that it does. It helps keep things moving, I suppose otherwise, I would be a terrible procrastinator, and it’d be so easy to not help hold myself accountable.

Renee Eulant Eusso  29:41

Yeah, I couldn’t agree more. Okay,

Debra Chantry-Taylor  29:43

So, um, tell us a little about your life coaching system because I’m really fascinated to hear a little bit more about that.

Renee Eulant Eusso  29:49

Yeah. Just like becoming an entrepreneur. I’m building this firm. Ah, I’m an accidental creator of His life coaching system, I am a quick start. So I tend to have life slapped me in the face. And then I pay attention to it and I address a problem. But when I address a problem, it’s very important to me that it be done well, my dad would always say a job’s not worth doing unless it’s done well. And then he would go on to say, good, better, best, never let it rest until you’re good is better, and your better is best. And so that’s ingrained in me. So I don’t do things halfway. So in 2021, my personal life fell apart, when I realized I was not in the marriage that I wanted to be in. And in leaving that marriage, I lost everything. Children, homes, community, money, everything. That hit me really hard. And I fell really, really hard. The lowest I’ve ever been in my life, not my first crush, but definitely the lowest. At that point, I had a business. And the only reason I could leave my marriage was because I was financially stable enough to afford to leave. I was an immigrant in a foreign country, the only way I could afford to get out was because I have my business. So I had to keep this business up. And one of my three children was still willing to see me. So I had to keep standing up and facing life, though every day I didn’t want to. And it took so much energy, after three hours in the morning to actually get up. I was abusing my body, I wasn’t taking care of myself. And at that rock bottom, I had the fortunate life interruption of saving the life of another human being. And this street person who the paramedics revived set up with their help. And on the front of a shirt, it said it’s not whether you get knocked down, it’s whether you get back up Vince Lombardi and I had the gift of this turnaround moment to wake up and stop myself sabotaging. Take responsibility for the fact that I got myself into this situation. And the only person who was going to get me out was me. I read many, many self help books, podcasts, and everybody kept telling me the things I should do to make my life better manage my energy, better change my habits, all these things, but it was too much. I was running on fumes, I needed to find a faster way to get myself together. And I was running the operating system in business. And so I wondered if I could pull some rules and tools and habits together from the books I read. And distill this down to a practical methodology that I could use and try on myself. To turn my life around. A friend said to me, Rene, what do you want to be on the other side of this? Who are you going to become? And I realized, I didn’t know. I also realized that I could not afford to make the same mistakes that I had made in the past. And I was aware that I had a very small amount of energy that I needed to magnify to give this get the strength to climb up this that mountain and rise through this catastrophe. And so I started to practice the basics of energy management, mindset parameters, just five basic habits, just five. And I pulled together different tools from different systems to create a suite of just five tools that I could use on a daily, weekly, quarterly, and annual cadence to get myself in a rhythm and give myself a holistic methodology so that I could manage my energy, learn how to be myself, deal with my old patterns, and create my life by my design. I didn’t know until this point when I had no life in my mind. That actually everybody can do that. I just happen to have flatlined my life And I needed to create my design. But I realized now that anybody can create change in their lives, so long as they’re willing to take responsibility for the fact that they’re the main character in all the problems. That change will not happen externally, the world won’t change for you, but you can. And it starts with the way you think, than the way you behave, which then impacts the results you get. And that part really needs to be systemized so it can be sustained so that you can build a practice of being yourself, manage your energy and live your life by your design. So much like we do with business. This simple playbook has fallen out of my own experience, people started to ask me what I was doing, and how could my life be pure hell and I seem to be improving and moving forward. And I would tell them, I’m practicing energy management, they would ask, can you tell me more about that. And then all the people in my life who I wanted to help on the other side of COVID are moving through change. They’re all wanting to be part of my world and wanted help. And I couldn’t help them all, but I could give them a system. So I started to give this deliver this teach this to other people. And it turns out what works for me can work for others, for those who are ready to take responsibility, make small changes, even down to five minutes a day. And commit to the fact that they matter most. And even being a little bit selfish. Putting yourself first a little bit of a time capsule can translate into real transformation.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  36:51

That’s awesome. It’s like I guess it’s similar to what Gino did with the business side of things, isn’t it? I mean, that guy’s is he looked at read all these books. And when this is all fantastic, but it’s too much. How do we actually bring it down to something that’s simple. That’s pragmatic that we can use on a daily basis, weekly basis, quarterly basis annual basis in Nepal. Beautiful. Hey, thank you for sharing that. If somebody wanted to find out a bit more about what you do, how would they get in contact with you.

Renee Eulant Eusso  37:20

They can email me direct at connect at Rise Up or visit our website BC means business coaching, I just happen to also live in a province called BC. But I Rise Up There’s a lot of great things coming along this year, including book lifestyle app and a few other great things because I want to create an opportunity for more people to engage in their personal discovery, journey, energy management and access tools and resources so that they can become their own Guru when I became a yoga teacher. A very long time ago, I remember my guru said to me, her name was Shakti me, she said, I am not your guru. And I was like, Yeah, you are. That’s why I came here. Say No, I am not your guru. You are the guru. Today, you’re the student. So that you can learn how to become your own teacher, your own master of self. And I feel that with the power of a simple system, and guidance, plus community, people really can realize their freedom to live their life by design. That is a byproduct of the inner transformation. It’s that’s in here. That starts with that alignment we talked about before head, heart, hand alignment in the basic form, making sure that you matter most every day with beautiful.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  39:05

Thank you so much for sharing, hey, look, I’ve really I always enjoy our chats. I always take so much from it. I’m sure that the listeners have to Renee, I will put those details in the podcast episode. I just want to thank you so much for being open for being vulnerable for sharing your story. I think you know, some of the things that you have talked about. It’s the reason that I kind of fell in love with EOS too was the fact that we’re not there to consult. We’re not there to tell them how to do things were there to teach. We’re there to empower we’re there to inspire we’re there to to get the team aligned, hold them accountable, facilitate those conversations, but we really want them to become the gurus. It’s not about us. We’re not the gurus. We’re there just to share that so that they then can take control of their own business and their life.

Renee Eulant Eusso  39:53

Absolutely. You know, that saying teach, feed someone or fish will eat for the day you teach them to fish, and they’ll live but I also think, prosper forever. This is the era for real human transformation to take place. And when people are willing to do the work with themselves, nothing but good things will come from that.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  40:24

You’re here, here’s to a fantastic 2024. Here’s to a great year for you. I hope that you continue to thrive and prosper and flourish. And thank you so much for spending the time with me this morning.

Renee Eulant Eusso  40:36

Thank you, Debra.











Debra Chantry-Taylor 

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