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Design your year before someone else does it for you! with Scott Rusnak- Episode 38

3 top tips from Scott Rusnak

1. Surround yourself with EOS tools

Well, I just hate to put a plug in for all these EOS things we do. But it’s hard not to. Take the EOS tools and put them into your life. So I’m talking about the EOS conference. I’ll put a plug in for that on April the 22nd in Orlando. And my talk is going to be ‘Design your life before someone else does it for you.’ Use those tools. Use the People Analyser.

2. Delegate & Elevate

The second tip is use the Delegate & Elevate tool to make sure you’re really getting what you want out of your life. What are your passions? What do you love to do? What are you great at? Stay in that box and really try to focus on that box.

3. Think about 5 15 150

I have to credit Carey Nieuwhof, he wrote a book called At Your Best. I guess I sort of I’m a fan of r&d. I researched and developed to maybe ripped off and duplicated a little bit, Carey, but I absolutely love your book. He talks about that 5 15 150. I really try to be intentional with that. Maybe someone has got a 7 14 140. But for me, I want to surround myself with the right people and make sure that I’m getting everything I want out of my life as well.

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Scott Rusnak, Debra Chantry-Taylor

Debra Chantry-Taylor  00:12

Welcome to another episode of Better Business, Better Life. I’m your host, Debra Chantry-Taylor. I’m passionate about helping entrepreneurs and their leadership teams get what they want out of business and life. On the show, I invite successful business owners and expert speakers to share their successes. They are open and honest about the highs and lows of business and also life as a business owner. We want to share those learnings with you to inspire you, but also to help you avoid some of the common mistakes. My hope is that you take something from each of these short episodes that you can put into action to help you get what you want. Not only out of your business, but also your life. So good morning, and welcome to another episode of Better Business, Better Life. It’s a brand new year, and I’m really excited to have Scott Rusnak back again with me. And Scott is about to become an expert EOS implementer. He’s been doing EOS, how many years now, Scott?

Scott Rusnak  01:04

Well, formally, this is coming up in my fifth year. But there’s a spell before that when I did all kinds of crazy things.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  01:11

So you might remember, remember Scott from one of our previous podcasts, he’s back today because being a new year, it’s a really great time to actually be thinking about what does the year ahead look like for you? And Scott has got some fantastic tips about designing your year before someone else does. Is that right?

Scott Rusnak  01:27

That’s exactly it. Excellent.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  01:29

So before we get started, we always do the EOS thing. Can you give us a professional and a personal best please Scott?

Scott Rusnak  01:35

I’d like to start with the personal best. Gosh, this year, we celebrated 30 years of marriage. And so we were able to go to, we call it 30 for 30, we went to Greece for 30 days to celebrate our 30th anniversary. So we’re really intentional about that. And it was a total blast.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  01:54

Oh, that sounds fantastic. Actually I haven’t been to Europe for a long, long time. How was it?

Scott Rusnak  01:59

Well, we were in Greece. And so we went to seven different islands. And I felt like I was in seven different countries. So it was really cool.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  02:06

Fantastic. And professionally, what’s been happening professionally.

Scott Rusnak  02:10

Well, it’s been an amazing year, I feel a little guilty with everything that’s going on in the world. I was able to do 170 EOS sessions. But the cool part I’ll be a little selfish is that my book has sold out twice. We’re going through a big rewrite right now. So I’m really excited about that.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  02:27

That’s fantastic, sold out twice. Okay, so it’s the new year. And we all know that you know people go right New Year new start, let’s start planning for the year ahead. But setting goals is one thing, knowing what your vision is another thing. What what do you do to make sure that your year is the best year it possibly can be?

Scott Rusnak  02:48

Debra, you teed it up perfectly. It’s, first of all, it’s nice to be on a podcast with another member of the Commonwealth so. So I’m not a big fan of New Year’s resolutions, or any of that kind of stuff. I’m a big fan of designing my year to make sure that I’m really flow with my energy zones. And I can decide when to say yes or no. So I really get intentional, before the year actually ends so that I know that on the first, second, third, I’m ready to go. So that I’m surrounding myself with my family, my loved ones, my friends and the right clients. So the year will be successful.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  03:30

How do you do that?

Scott Rusnak  03:33

Yeah, it’s hard to say no. But when you can say no, with the right intentions in place, it can be become a pretty amazing experience. And I’ve got something called the 5 15 150. I don’t have, I found that I don’t have the capacity to have more than five really good friends. So I’ve got five people that I know if I needed to call them at two in the morning, they’d pick up the phone, and some of those people are family members as well. And then I’ve got something called the 15. And those 15 or people that I’ve been friends with for a heck of a long time I really enjoy being with and I use a tool called the people analyzer, a fabulous EOS tool, and I tell my friends about it, I’m like, you’re still a plus, plus, plus, you get what it’s like to be my friend, you want to be my friend, I want to be your friend, we both got the capacity for each other. And you’re that group of five and 15. That’s about 20 people that I really mesh my life around. You know, someone that you know, you’ll get a text back in 24 hours, they’ll pick up the phone, what have you. And those are the people I really want to be intentional with my life. I’ll show you how I designed my year around them in a little bit. But then I’ve got this group of 150 which are other EOS and mentors, current and past clients. And I’ll make sure that if those people reach out and other family members, if they reach out that I’m there for them within 24 to 48 hours and those rules really give me is the freedom to then go and design my year, my quarter and my days around all my priorities.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  05:07

I love that. I’ve never heard you GWC being used for your friends and family I like it. Watch out out friends I’m coming.

Scott Rusnak  05:16

Yeah, dirty little secret. I’ve had to fire some friends in my life because we have a three strike rule at EOS. Okay for strike, hey, look, is it you? Or is it me? Well, hey, look, if we’re going to be surrounding ourselves with people we love being with, because we want to have a great effect in the world when this happened. And that wasn’t so cool. Was it me? Or was it you and you just said, happens again, we’re probably going to have to break up. So there’s been some breakups in the world. And I’m sure some people have broken up with me as well. So you’ve really got to surround those people that fit your core values that you get each other, you want to be with one another. You really got that mental, emotional physical capacity to be around one another. Yeah,

Debra Chantry-Taylor  05:58

I love it. That’s great. And then so if people fall outside of this 5 15 150, then what happens to them?

Scott Rusnak  06:07

They contact you and you say to them, you know, I’ve designed my year around my family, my passions, and a lot of the work that I’m doing. And they asked if they want to get on my calendar for Thursday, the 24th of February, I’ll say, Well, no, I’m sorry. I’ve got my year planned out, and we can’t meet then. But I’ll be back probably mid March. If you want to get together then, no problem. So I’m not saying that they’re going to try out again. But if they want to have an open honest conversation and discuss how to get back on my calendar, I get back on their’s I’m an open book as well. But I want to make sure that those people flow around that. The other thing I do, Debra and here’s another one that’ll make you laugh. Let’s have a tool called

Debra Chantry-Taylor  07:02

I think we have an internet issue there

Scott Rusnak  07:06

people. And so for me, that just allows me to say, hey, are these people one of those? Yeah, hopefully my internet is still good. I know what half a world apart. But

Debra Chantry-Taylor  07:18

We just had a little bit of break up there. So I’m just going to repeat that if you don’t mind. So that you were talking about the delegate and elevate tool?

Scott Rusnak  07:26

Yeah. So if I really dig into my delegate elevate checklist, which is a fabulous EOS tool, it’ll tell me what do I love to do, what I want to migrate out? I love hanging around passionate people. And if I can hang around with passionate people who are fun like you, and very focused on getting what they want from their life, that makes it really easy for me to say yes or no to those people.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  07:50

Sure. Cool. I’m really fascinated. I haven’t really thought about using some of these tools in my personal life. This is fantastic. Okay, cool. So it’s not as if so is the only a saying is that by having some structure, and by using these tools, you’re able to make decisions more easily. And it doesn’t mean it’s set in stone, it means that you have an opportunity to decide whether or not it’s worthwhile doing something with it. Is that right?

Scott Rusnak  08:14

Absolutely. Debra, we’ve got something called the EOS life, which I flipped upside down. For me, the most important thing in my life is I need time to pursue other passions. Right? Okay. But I want to make sure that I’m being compensated appropriately, I’m making a huge impact on the world, doing what I love with people I love. Well, why can’t we do that, not only at work, but in our own lives as well. So I really try to embrace that in my own life, to make sure it comes right back to that delegate innovate, I want to hang out with passionate people and clients as well. If they’re not passionate, they really want to push for more. They’re probably not a good fit for me. And then someone who’s just by the book, and they’re going to do it like this. I’ll refer them to someone else. I want to have some fun with this. Well,

Debra Chantry-Taylor  09:04

Life is too short right? To not have fun.

Scott Rusnak  09:07

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It’s important to me.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  09:10

So you’ve got your 5 15 150, using a GWC, using a delegate and elevate. You’ve also got this planner kind of tool as well, haven’t you? Tell me about that?

Scott Rusnak  09:22

Well, in my delegate elevate checklist, the second thing down other than hey, passionate people. This is gonna sound crazy. I don’t think I’m OCD. But I love planning out my year. And I’ve done that since the age of gosh, 18-19. When I was trying to become a professional cyclist, I would map out the races through the year that I thought I could win. And so I brought that into my adult life before I joined us. I just said, look, why can’t I take a here’s a sample of my 12 month calendar. Why can’t I take a 12 month calendar and really get intentional at the start of the year and highlight those days where I’m going to be skiing surfing traveling the world with my, my wife, but really hold those close to my heart to make sure that nobody infringes on those.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  10:11

Yeah. And so the for the viewers who couldn’t or they’re listening, but can’t see that I’ll share a snapshot on the website is fantastic. So it’s basically what we would call an annual planner. And there are a yellow days highlighted out, which is where Scott’s gonna take his holidays, for surfing for cycling for being with his wife doing all the fun things. Yep.

Scott Rusnak  10:30

Yeah, and then the other part because we’re both members of the Commonwealth. I’m a dual citizen. So not only do I take July 4, and it’s in blue, I take up July 1, that’s Canada days. So I put those things in my calendar as well. The other thing I do is I put my kid’s birthday, hey, my one son, his birthday is Christmas day. Well, that’s an easy one. But I take Boxing Day, the next day, so nobody’s touching me then. The sixth of January is an important day. It’s one of my other son’s birthday, I want to make sure I’m intentional with all these things. So my wife’s birthday, my mother’s birthday, these things are in my calendar, just to make sure that yes, again, these are the most important things in my life, I want to make sure that I don’t miss those important dates.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  11:10

That’s, that’s really cool. Very good.

Scott Rusnak  11:14

Then the scary part, and I know maybe some of my clients will hear this is that I get really intentional on the days that I want to work with clients. And what I was looking at last year, I had about 170 client days, which is a heck of a lot of clients, and that’s probably a little too much. But that’s okay, I love helping. This year, I’ve decided I want to try to do no more than 100 clients, a sum. When I was mapping my year out, I just have wrapped up some manuals in December in January, I told them about what I was doing for the year and they, my clients I that’s a really darn good idea. So I went through the exercise of them mapping out their year and me mapping out my year, we got intentional on sessions. And again, most of the people listening or watching this podcast and see all these dates, but I’ve got blue dates in there for my client session. So here’s what I want to be able to do my sessions, preferably not on Mondays. So it’s mid week and the odd Friday is when I want to do my client sessions. And I know that January is incredibly busy and we go through this 90 day world with EOS, well, that means April’s gonna be really busy. Well, then that means that July will be busy. So I try to map it out with that flow in mind as well.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  12:31

That’s great. Yeah, we have a slightly different financial year over here. So it’s our March that is a really busy busy time. But same principle applies, right, it’s making sure that you’ve got those times kind of mapped out. So and it also I guess, helps you in terms of if you know that you want to do 100 consulting days or session days, then there’s a certain number of clients that you can work with. Right. So you’re not trying to push yourself too much in terms of number of clients. But that’d be fair

Scott Rusnak  12:57

Yeah, absolutely. You know, at us, we have something called a scorecard. And so I have my own personal scorecard. I try to never do more than three sessions a week. Two is the optimal number. So my scorecard number says to us, we need to be able to rest, gain clarity prepare in between. And so it’s really important to make sure that when we’re doing those session days, we’re super present. And there’s no distractions before you walk into that room. Yep.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  13:26

So how do you in terms of working with your clients? So for people listening in, they go, Well, you’re an EOS implementer. That’s easy. You get to control how things work. But this is the same for anybody who runs a business, right? Anybody can actually take this discipline and go this is what is important to me.

Scott Rusnak  13:43

Yeah. Well, interesting enough, when I was working at my last business, which was called School Logic, that was a lot of airplane time. And I designed my year so that every second week, I would be away from home Tuesday to Thursday. So I’d be New York, Chicago, LA, whatever. It was on an airplane Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, the following week. I was in the office, I was preparing, getting ready. But then every second week, again, Tuesday, Thursday, I was out client facing. So it is very similar to what we do at EOS. I knew that every second week for three days, I’d be on the road. Now, sometimes that schedule got thrown in the mix. But I tried to follow that structure. Because when the school season would kick in with school logic after Labor Day. Yeah, I probably say for the first six, seven weeks of the start of the school year, I was on the road, but only for three days a week. And I knew if it was more than three, I would just get burnt out because it was a real possibility.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  14:39

Yeah, that makes perfect sense. So can you give us some tips around how you say no to people? Because, you know, when you love to help people like we do, it can sometimes be really hard to say no, that doesn’t work or no for another reason. How do you how do you do that?

Scott Rusnak  14:56

Yeah, so then let’s go backwards again to that people analyzer. First of all, core values. When I meet a potential client, in fact, I was mountain biking with a potential client today. Absolutely passionate, amazing. We talked about his business where he wanted to be. But I realized that he didn’t fit one of our really important core values, humbly, confident, it was all about him. And he seemed that the business was driven around his ego. And I said to him, Have you ever been coached before? Have you ever been directed in your business? Have you ever brought someone in from the outside to work with your leadership team? And he said, No, you know, I prefer if you just worked with me, and I’d like to change the flow. So I took him to the people analyzing, our PA and our process. I said, I’m probably not the right, not the right fit for you. But I think I can find someone else. So that was a very easy no for me. Okay, so again, he was passionate, but he didn’t fit the people analyzer. I don’t think he got what we did. I think he wanted it. I knew we had the capacity. But when there’s a strike there, it really sets off a little bit of a stoplight a red light in the stoplight, go. Okay, we need to stop now. I clarified, he agreed. It wasn’t the right fit.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  16:06

Yeah. Okay, perfect. So by having those kind of boundaries and those rules and not too much rules, but the frameworks, it means you have the ability to explain, you know, the reasoning, I suppose, and give them a reasonable sense.

Scott Rusnak  16:23

And there’s a client I’m talking to right now they want to onboard. And I said to them, Look, the week of January 24, works really well. And here’s the reason why. Because we get into at the start, we meet every 30 days, I said after that the week of the 21st of February works good and the 21st of March. So they understood that flow. And I said if we’re going to commit move forward, you need to understand that and then 90 days thereafter. So they’re getting their head wrapped around that right now. Because if we change the journey to a certain degree, this thing we call it us, it just doesn’t work. So I get on the same page with them on my calendar. When I showed them my calendar actually did a snapshot of the calendar. So they don’t know I’m thinking it, they really understand. And so we’ll have a conversation this week to see if that flow works for them. And if it doesn’t, again, I’ll refer them to someone else, because I’m going to make sure that works for me. And then if I’m tripping over another client to serve another client, it’s just not going to work.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  17:24

Yeah. No, that makes perfect sense. Cool. Okay, so you you put together that planner, did you use some kind of special software? Is it an Excel spreadsheet? Like what is it that creates that beautiful piece of work?

Scott Rusnak  17:36

Debra, I’m a, I’m a caveman. Okay. You drew it, this thing called Zoom. If I look to the right, I’ve got a planter on the wall that we talked about before we started this session. Yeah, it is just in ink. And it’s all written down. But for the purposes of this podcast, and a number of talks I’m doing through through the year. This is just an Excel spreadsheet. Yeah. It’s the simplest thing. It goes on the fridge downstairs, my wife would love it. It was in Google Map. And I’m like, I’m not doing that. I’m not putting it on the calendar. Here’s what the year looks like. Yeah. You know, the wonderful thing about it. I don’t want to sound robotic or mechanical. But I’ve got a favorite uncle. You can have a favorite uncle. Right? You can have a favorite uncle. Yeah. I’ve got a favorite uncle who helped me with my book, and I absolutely love him to death. His name’s Rob Butler. But his daughter is getting married in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. He said, Hey, Scott, it’s June 25. It’s a Saturday I was like, oh, geez, I had a client session on the 23rd, which is a Thursday, but I really want to go early to go fishing with him a little bit. So this allows me to then talk to my client said, Sam, would you move to the 21st or 22nd, so I can fly to Canada, so I can go fishing with him before this wedding. And then I blocked the entire week out after which leads me into Canada day in July 4. So this allows me to have a really open honest discussion with friends, family clients, that five and 15 that 150. So here’s how my year is looking. Do you mind if we make a little change here or there?

Debra Chantry-Taylor  19:12

Yeah. And I think most people understand, especially when they you know when they understand why you’re wanting to do that. So I really applaud that. So the old wall planner, I’ve got one too, I absolutely love it. And I get teased about it being old fashioned. But for me, it’s a really great visual snapshot of exactly what the year looks like. And it means if I’m on the phone to a client, and they’re asking about a date, rather than trying to go through calendars and see what so I can look at my wall planner and go these are the days I’ve got free. It makes a whole lot easier. Do you find the same in terms of that visual element?

Scott Rusnak  19:43

Every time I walk into my office, I look at it. Look at it and I’ll see that okay, the first of September. I know what’s going on so subconsciously I know when I walk out of my office every morning to do a session or walk out to go mountain biking or skiing. I know it’s not exactly how I want the year to flow. So I don’t need to come back to this little eight and a half by 11 piece of paper. It’s right there. And if anyone else was like, look at it, it’s right there as well. And I think it’s a tool that has changed my entire life as simple as it is.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  20:14

Fantastic. I know Gino talked about it in one of his talks to us a couple of years ago, that just sort of blew me away even just the process of thinking about, you know, what is the ideal amount of time that you want to spend at work, and it’s different for all of us. This is the thing that I kind of struggled with, because I thought that, you know, initially it’s like, well, you need to work five days a week, for however many 48 weeks in a year, whatever it might be. But Gino says no, what is your optimal? Like? Where do you actually perform your absolute best. And for some people that might be 70 80 90 hours a week for others, it will be 20 30. And there’s no right or wrong, but it’s about recognizing what works for you both from an hours per week, but also number of weeks in the year, how much holiday do you need to to ensure that you’re refreshed? I’ve just come back from a two and a half week holiday. And it’s the first time in a long time I’ve taken that break. And I have to say everyone’s just phenomenal. I now need to make sure that we have those booked in regularly throughout the year.

Scott Rusnak  21:07

Well, we’re on the same page, I’m looking at a Venn diagram as well, like I get into all these goofy things. Yep. So picture the three circles and Austin did a PDF of it. Yes, go one circle up top that says family and vacation one circle over here that says other passions. And then one circle on the bottom that says my EOS practice. Last year when I calculated the dates, look at it again. My practice took 170 days. So that was 46.5% of my time. My other passions took 26.5% of my time, but family vacation took 27% So I just calculated my dates. But my family or sorry, my practice took a really big circle of time. And this year, I was very intentional. I said to my kids who are 23 and 25. My wife’s like, I’m gonna dial that back. So I practice this year we’ll have a smaller circle and only take 27% of my time. My family vacation and Pashtuns will then get 63% of my time. And I actually think I’ll be a better EOS implementer. Because of it. I’ll have more time to really prepare more time for clarity. And I’ll be more present with my family and my other passions.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  22:20

Fantastic. So why don’t you tell us a little bit about your book. You mentioned before that your book has got its second second sold out? Is that right? Tell us about the book tell us what, what prompted you to write it and what it’s about.

Scott Rusnak  22:34

I’ve been writing the book for about 10 years, and I finally published it last year. The book is called Design your life before someone does it for you. And it’s the entrepreneurs field guide. And it leads in with a bit of a silly story of me as an 11 year old kid on a mountain called Marmot basin, Jasper, Alberta, Canada. And as a little kid, I was really a passionate kid on paper and want to make no money want to become a professional athlete of some sort. So I jump on this expert chairlift and my day of having fun on the ski mountain is by myself minus 10 minus 20 Celsius. Leave me alone ski in the trees. I don’t want to be bothered. So I get on this chairlift that comes to a stop and it’s broken. This is not going to be good. Well, this wire real character sits down beside me. And he looked like he was in the back alley brawl. His stuff was all torn and the lift he looks at me says hey, have a good ride kid has a good ride. Yeah, you’re gonna have a good time. So the guy that jumps on the chairlift, he says to me, what do you do over here, kid? Where are your parents? So I ski alone. He’s like, wow, that’s frightening. Well, where do you ski? So I ski over there on the spruce line stuff on this expert run. He’s like, you’re gonna kill yourself kid. Yeah, just I just go over there. It’s like, well, 20 meters that said, You’ll fall off the cliff. Why don’t you come with me, we go to the top of the lift. We push for a hike for another 34 minutes, we ski the back country. I said you’re crazy. Like no kid. If you go past where everyone else thinks is the top and you push further, and you don’t overthink it. He said, I want you to take two turns at a time. And you’ll get the most incredible ski runnier life. And I was 11 years old. And that had such an impact on me. I don’t overthink things. I push further. I just take life two terms at a time knowing that I plan out my year my ski run my business, I can get to the bottom of anything.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  24:34

You always blow me away, which I told you about so many stories and so many great ideas. So the book is about designing your life for somebody else does. And I’m assuming it actually gives you lots of tips and tools and things that can actually help you with that. Is that right?

Scott Rusnak  24:46

Yeah, so it’s about 40 lessons and exercises. Much like the annual planner, the weekly planner. We talked about some EOS stuff in there, but also talk about who you surround yourself. What’s your story? What do you want to get out of your life? What do you want your legacy to look like? So when you’re close to that point where you’re not moving quite like you are anymore, what’s that thing gonna look like? So it’s been an absolute blast writing it, the rewrite is really fun, and I hope to have it out for February.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  25:13

Fantastic. We’ll make sure we have a link to that in the podcast, as well as we’ll let you pre-order it. Hey, look, we’re running out of time. It just goes so quickly. So I guess before we kind of finish up, I’d love to just get three tips that we could give to the listeners they can actually use in their life and their business in their life. What would be your top Scott’s top three tips?

Scott Rusnak  25:32

Well, I just hate to put a plug in for all these EOS things we do. But it’s hard not to. Yeah. Take the EOS tools and put them into your life. So I’m talking about the EOS conference. I’ll put a plug in for that on April the 22nd in Orlando. And my talk is going to be design your life before someone else does it for you. Use those tools. Use the people analyzer. Yep. So there’s the first one you’re going to surround yourself with. The second tip is use the delegate elevate to make sure you’re really getting what you want out of your life. What are your passions? What do you love to do? What we’re great at? Stay in that box and really try to focus on that box. Yeah. Then the last one, which I have to credit Carey Nieuwhof. He wrote a book called At Your Best. And I guess I sort of I’m a fan of r&d. I researched and developed to maybe ripped off and duplicated a little bit, Carey, but absolutely love your book. He talks about that 5 15 150. And I really try to be intentional with that. And you know, maybe someone has got a 7 14 140. But for me, you know, I want to surround myself with the right people. And make sure that I’m getting everything I want out of my life as well. So those are my top three tips. Use those EOS tools, put them into your life, design your life before someone else does for you, and think about 5 15 50. Why not?

Debra Chantry-Taylor  26:58

It’s a great concept. I’m thinking about it already on the podcast yet. Hey, Scott, look, a pleasure. As always, thank you so much for coming on the show, really appreciate it. If people would like to get in contact with you, what’s the best way to get in contact with you?

Scott Rusnak  27:14

Debra Chantry-Taylor  27:18

And we will put a couple of things in the where we publish podcast, I’ll put a couple of links. So we’ll put those three circles, we’ll give you the snapshot of that planner. So you can see that and a link to your new book for when it’s released when it comes out.

Scott Rusnak  27:34

And I don’t have New Year’s resolutions. But I do hope in the next 12 months I can get back to the land of the Kiwi because I obviously love New Zealand and we’ve never met in person, but we’re besties. So I don’t know how that works.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  27:46

You have to come and visit and we have to go mountain biking in the forest, all that kind of stuff. You’re fantastic. But yeah, and I’m looking forward. I mean, hopefully if our prime minister allows us we should be able to travel later on this year. So I’m looking forward to coming to the US as well. Let’s do it. Perfect. Hey, thanks, Scott. As always absolute pleasure. Talk to you soon.

Scott Rusnak  28:04

Pleasure is all mine. Thanks, Debra. Thank you.

Debra Chantry-Taylor  28:07

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