Top tips from Manuj Aggarwal.
1. Try this ChatGPT
Try this, go to ChatGPT write a story about something that you want to happen in the future, maybe something small, even like, you know, let’s say you want to take a vacation with your family or whatever, write the story and read it out to yourself for a few days and see what happens. And, and, you know, I’d love to know the impact of it. Because it’s very interesting what, what happens when people try it.
2. Have 20 new conversations with people.
I always tell people have, have 20 new conversations with people. So whether that’s inside your company, outside your company, because the more conversations you have, the more you know, insights you will get about your life about your business. And this has nothing to do with AI, by the way. So this is just great business, and human connection. So the more you talk to, let’s say, your employees, so at least 20 new conversations with people you haven’t touched base in or, you know, whatever that is, and ask them, Hey, how’s life? What what’s happening in your life? How, how can I help you. And this will give you so much insight about what is happening in the world around you.
3. Just get better at storytelling.
The third thing I will say, is just get better at storytelling, because that’s another trait that human mind has evolved to remember stories. And if you want to make yourself memorable, start telling better stories we haven’t we haven’t been taught how to do that in, in our modern education system. But if you start to tell stories, people will start to remember you more vividly, involuntarily, because when you tell a good story, it reminds another person about their experience. And now that story becomes, you know, memorable for them. And, and whenever there is an opportunity for you to work together, do some business together, that story is going to link you up together and you know that that will be beneficial for you.
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Manuj Aggarwal 00:00
Going back to the same example that I was using for the students, you can just tell the adult informed AI that this is my life journey. This is my history, you know, this is where I come from, this is my background. And these are some of the options that I’m looking at. What are your thoughts, and in order for a human to understand it, it will take, you know, hours and hours of sort of getting getting to know you, but with a super intelligent being, it can actually look at your journey, and it can actually start to give you very intelligent answers that, you know, maybe you should try this, maybe you should try that. And then the other, the next step is we can even get this kind of advice from other human beings. But then we get stuck on okay, you know, what is my next step? You know, how do I get there? So, again, yeah, I can help you. And if you can start to brainstorm with the eye and say, okay, you know, what is my first step? What could be the next step? What is the easiest one thing I can do to, you know, to move forward in that direction?
Debra Chantry-Taylor 01:07
Hello, and welcome to another episode of Better Business better life. Today, I am joined by a fabulous Canadian guest. His name is Manuj Aggarwal. So that’s spelled it the right way as I hope. Yeah, absolutely.
Manuj Aggarwal 01:21
Thank you. Thank you so much for having me excited to be here.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 01:24
Yeah, and I really looking forward to and so for those of you who don’t know who minutiae is, minutiae, is actually a global leader in AI. His little tagline is, is backed by science and AI. And he was just sharing with me his story just before he came on the podcast, and it’s a really interesting one, because he’s originally from India, he’s now living in Canada. And at 15 years old, he was working in a factory. So I’m gonna hand the floor over to minutia, you can tell us a bit about your story and how you got to being where you are now? Sure, yeah. Yeah, um, you know, I grew up in a very small town in India, and India was a, obviously a developing country back then, that 30 years ago. And it still is in many respects. And in that time, you know, in a small town, there was not many opportunities for higher education for employment and things like that. So I started working in a factory, and I was making $2 a day, I was working six days a week, 12 hours a day.
Manuj Aggarwal 02:20
It was really hard work really hard life. And I wanted to do something better with my life, obviously, I didn’t know what it could be, and where to go, who to talk to. And one fine day, I was sitting at lunch hour going through some business magazines. And I saw these I read these stories of these tycoons who had made a lot of progress in their life, and they have changed their their destiny and destiny around people around them by building their empire. So I thought to myself, you know, what is different about them? What, what do they have that I don’t have. And anyway, I mean, that inspiration triggered something in me. Even at that point, I didn’t know exactly what I was going to do. But from that point onwards, I started looking for, you know, my superpower or my, you know, what, what I could do with my life. And I found my, myself in a computer programming course, two years later, and I just fell in love with computers and technology. And I knew that was I was, that’s exactly what I was going to do. And then after programming, I learned programming, I got a job in India. After that, I moved to Canada. And that was the.com, boom time, around 1998 99. And I got a job very quickly and stayed there for a couple of years. And I made pretty good progress in that job. But then.com bust happened, and I lost that job. And then I lost another job because of September 11, another job because of Gulf War. So I kept losing my job. And I realized that, you know, I shouldn’t really look for job security, irrespective of whether I’m in India or Canada. So then I started my consulting company back in 2001. And I started working with a lot of startups, helping them build their technology, build technology products, and bring them bring them to market. And then I also got an I also got the opportunity to work with large corporations like Microsoft and IBM and Pearson Education. And for these Corporation, I built a global system. So Microsoft, we built a system for them to handle enterprise clients all over the world. And that system was processing about 30 $40 billion worth of transactions every year. For Pearson Education, we built education, educational platform for students, and that was producing about $400 million annually. And so I got to see how small companies grow large and then how large corporations they are Keep dominating the market. And as I was going through all this, you know, I had a lot of challenges with my relationships at home with my parents with my spouse. And so what I was, you know, having professional success in my career but struggling at home, and then I had my firstborn child around 2010, and he won’t connect with me. And that led me into depression and suicidal thoughts. And I wanted to really fix myself because I knew, if I give in, you know, it’ll be it’ll be not good for myself or my family. I went into meditation, spirituality, and I understood how the mind works, how human psychology works neuroscience behind it. So as I was learning about this whole concept about the mind, I also was getting heavily into artificial intelligence, building systems for various very various clients. And so I finally realized that our mind and artificial intelligence is basically a continuum of the same thing. You know, our mind impacts AI and AI impacts our mind. And so with that realization, I started to see okay, you know, I was able to fix myself my mind come out of suicidal thinking, and actually grow massively in my career in my, in my thinking, and how can I do that for other people? So when I talk to other people about meditation and things like that, generally I get the answer, or I have no time for that. And then I started thinking, Okay, if you don’t have time for that, maybe that’s the reason why you should meditate. But if you don’t want to do that, maybe I can use technology like AI to help people experience some of that meditative state. So that’s, that’s sort of my passion. But also, this has huge implications in business, in, in, you know, building a culture inside the company and attracting the right clients and making the clients more loyal to the brand. So all of these things can be done through artificial artificial intelligence, because because, because of how it impacts our mind, and vice versa. So that is sort of the story, the journey I took, from where I was, and from where I am today.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 07:18
It’s interesting. So I usually ask people what they’re most proud of, but I’m in listening to your story, obviously, you’ve been, you know, right, the way down to the bottom of the pit, if you like, I managed to raise yourself up, which I think is, is pretty inspirational. So thank you for sharing that. What are you most proud of professionally?
Manuj Aggarwal 07:33
I think the most I’m proud of the fact that my technology, the work that I have done, it has impacted over 10 million lives. And, yeah, so. So it has impacted them in a way that, you know, they are able to experience live pain free. So we build some technology that helps with joint pains. And, you know, now people using that technology can can, you know, do their job without experiencing pain, we build technology to educate kids in such a way that, you know, they can, they can
Manuj Aggarwal 08:14
learn from anywhere. We built another technology that helps college students complete their degree programs, because about 30% of the college students, they drop out of their degree programs, because of various reasons. And so we implemented an AI technology which helped them, you know, sort of reach out the universities lower that dropout rate significantly. So these are the type of projects that excite me because they bring about tangible change in human life, quality of life. So that’s, that’s something to be proud of. I think,
Debra Chantry-Taylor 08:48
without a doubt, I mean, the rest have impacted obviously making a huge difference. So tell me a little bit, I think it’s really good to go back to basics, because AI is a term that is bandied around all the time. And people might sort of think, well, what really is AI? So how would you describe AI?
Manuj Aggarwal 09:03
Sure. Well, you know, yeah, as I said, is basically an extension of our mind. So when we think about our mind, it’s a pattern recognize recognition machine, so we recognize patterns in life, and then we adopt them. So I’ll give you a quick example. So let’s say a kid touches a hot stove, they will realize that you know, it is it feels hot, and it hurts and I don’t want to do that again. So now the kid has taken one data point of experience of touching the hot stove. And the mind has learned that this is not a good thing to do. So don’t do it. So that’s intelligence right? Now we put that child in Antarctica with heat resistant gloves and you know, to super cold out there and now the child touches the stove. It will actually flee feel pleasant, it will not feel hurtful, it’s not going to be hot. So now the mind recognizes that okay, you There are multiple variables here, I’m wearing the gloves, I It’s cold outside. And this in these conditions, it’s okay to touch the stove. So there are three or four new parameters that have been learned now, these are data points that our mind learns. Now, if we extrapolate that to some really complex problem, like predicting the weather, or you know, finding solutions for climate change or predicting the stock market, there are millions and millions of parameters that our mind is not able to comprehend. So even the smartest people, maybe they can handle 10 or 15 variables at the same time. But when we, when we talk about a complex problem with many variables, the machine is able to ingest millions of data points, and then is able to find that minut pattern and tell us okay, you know, this is what’s going to happen, based on the data, you know, it is going to rain in 14 days, or this this X ray that I’m examining it has this kind of cancer or whatever it is, so the machine is able to accurately predict that. And humans, human mind is not able to do that. So that’s, that’s artificial intelligence.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 11:10
That’s actually a really good example. I like it a lot. Okay, that’s cool. And of course, that means that it’s going to be really helpful for making things that may have been sort of very long tasks before really, really super short. You said, You give a couple examples of how you’ve used it to help kids stay in their study, you think give me like a little bit more depth on that one, particularly, what is that all about? Yeah, for
Manuj Aggarwal 11:34
sure. See, what happens is when students they enroll into university, they generally take up courses based on recommendations of career counselors, or friends or family. And at that young age, like, you know, 19, or 20, people generally don’t know what they want, and what they, you know, they are enthusiastic as they go into the university. But as they go through the courses, they either get bored, because the subject is of no interest to them, or it is too difficult for them. So then they decide you’re I’m just going to drop out of this university. And, you know, the university loses a student and the society loses a graduate, potential graduate. So what we did was we collected data from hundreds of 1000s of students, their school scores, their aptitude scores, their interest levels, and we created a model to understand you know, what course suits what kind of student and now we know, as a student is trying to register into the university, we can look at the history, historical data, and we can say, okay, based on your data, our model is telling us that you should take these courses. So we almost recommend courses to them, just like Netflix recommends shows to us, right. So the idea is, now we are matching the courses based on their ability to take the course and finish it and their interest level. So as a result, most of the students were able to complete their degree program because the courses matched their their interest levels. And also, in fact, they actually took 20% more courses than required by their degree completion criteria.
Manuj Aggarwal 13:23
And this program was so successful that President Obama mentioned it in his speech multiple times. And Bill Gates also mentioned it in his speech, and Bill Gates Foundation actually invested in the project is fantastic.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 13:35
I never heard of it, sadly. But that’s really amazing. So you’re absolutely right, you know, when you go to university, you have no idea about you know, what you really want to do, and you said, we get forced down a pathway that is actually there. Sometimes it’s the parents who want you to be a lawyer or a doctor, you know, this from being an Indian parents, or engineer. For mine, it was you know, you should go into a science degree even though I love people and I love languages, there’s a danger of going to science as is a great thing to do. I find in later on in life, a lot of people actually kind of struggle with, you know, what should I be doing? And why should I be doing it? And I always say to people, you know, do the stuff that you really, really love and you’re really good at and let go of the stuff that you’re not so great at. But some people struggle with that. Do you see AI playing a part in actually helping people find their why?
Manuj Aggarwal 14:22
Yeah, absolutely. The AI is it opens up the possibility to ask questions, questions that we may not be able to easily answer because you can think of AI as being sort of a collective consciousness of the of the human race, or you can say, a super intelligent being who has read all the books that are out there and you can, you know, you can go and ask any question and say, okay, you know, this is my history. It’s going back to the same example that I was using for the students. You can just Dell, Dell informed AI that this is my life journey, this is my history, you know, this is where I come from this my background. And these are some of the options that I’m looking at, what are your thoughts, and in order for a human to understand it, it will take, you know, hours and hours of sort of getting getting to know you, but with a super intelligent being, it can actually look at your journey, and it can actually start to give you very intelligent answers that, you know, maybe you should try this, maybe you should try that. And then the other, the next step is, we can even get this kind of advice from other human beings, but then we get stuck on okay, you know, what is my next step? You know, how do I get there? So, again, yeah, I can help you. And if you can start to brainstorm with the eye and say, okay, you know, what is my first step? What could be the my next step, what is the easiest one thing I can do to, you know, to move forward in that direction. So all of these things are accessible and easy now, with AI. And of course, we are at the very beginning of what AI could be. So, in five years time, in 10 years time, you can think of AI being a highly personalized AI, which is almost like your therapist, who knows you so well, and is accompanying you all the time. And it can actually tell you, you know, you should eat this today, if you want to be healthy, you know, you should think about this career move or whatever. So, so that’s, that’s the reason we are going into now.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 16:34
Yeah, no, I actually had some examples of that when I’m doing a panel discussion of the day about a person who was training to do a cycle race, and using AI to actually really up like, make the training program up to date to that minute, as opposed to in the past, you’d make me might go to a trainer who would give you a program for six weeks, and then you stuck at it. And at the end of six weeks, you then change it now they’re able to make real time kind of adjustments based on what’s going into your mouth, what exercise you’re gonna have while you slept about the meditation part of things, because you said it can help with meditation. And it’s, it’s something that I wouldn’t say I don’t have the time to do it’s something I’ve struggled to do, because my mind is always like working at a million miles an hour. Yeah, how does? How does AI help with that? Fee?
Manuj Aggarwal 17:16
First of all, I’ll spend one minute on meditation. Meditation is not about getting rid of your thoughts. Meditation is about observing your thoughts. So our mind is basically a conscious mind and subconscious mind. Everything that happens in our life is generally controlled by our subconscious mind. So I will say 90% of our life is controlled by our subconscious mind, and only 10% is conscious. So generally, we don’t know why our subconscious mind is doing something, it’s generally because of emotional responses that we experience based on our childhood based on our past, past background and all that. And, and when you when you meditate, you basically are observing your thoughts. And now you are separating. Through that app, you are separating your subconscious mind and subconscious mind, you can start to observe it. Now, how does AI, how can AI help you is, let’s say, you know you, you have a certain vision for your life. So let’s say you want to become a very successful entrepreneur. And that vision is very blurry, like, you know, if I just say I want to become a successful entrepreneur, I don’t exactly know what it means, like, how will how will that be, but you can go to AEI and say, okay, you know, write me a story that depicts in detail, how will it feel to be a successful entrepreneur and write it in first person, and write it in the present tense, you know, or even in the past tense. And you can start to say, you know, I have 250 employees, and, you know, my business is thriving, and it can give you like, very, very fine detail, you know, I’m driving a car worth, you know, $100,000, it’s, it got red color, I was driving down the street, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Now, our conscious mind and even our subconscious mind is not imaginative enough to put in all the details and really understand that as truth. But if you ask AI to write a very detailed story, and now you start to read it out loud to yourself, it will actually make you experience the same meditative effect because now you are really visualizing your future in great detail. And when you start to do that over and over again, and the listeners can try it actually, I and let me know in seven days how it will because within seven days, you will start to feel something in your mind, you will start to feel an upliftment, you’ll start to feel some negative effect. And I will not be surprised at some of the things that you I have read in that story, they actually start to manifest. Yeah, no, that’s absolutely true.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 20:06
And I think this is really important. I know that there was a time when the secret came out, and people kind of went, Oh, you know, we can just, we can make anything happen. But they sort of went down the track of, okay, I’m just going to wish there was a million dollars in my bank account. And that’s gonna happen, I think it is the level of detail. And being able to be really focused that your subconscious can deliver what you’re trying to get to is really important. So it’s not, it’s not a miracle. It’s just actually if we’re really clear about where we’re headed, and the crystal clear laser-sharp focus, then the world can start to deliver on what you want. Yeah, fascinating. Gosh, you know, it’s really interesting, because I think a lot of the stuff in the media about AI is really around marketing and chapter 80. And, and but there’s so much that you can do with it outside of that, isn’t it, but it must come down to knowing what you want to get out of it. Like how do you know what to put in so that you can get out what you need?
Manuj Aggarwal 20:57
Yeah, exactly. So when we work with businesses or clients, that’s the first thing we ask them, okay. Tell us what is your biggest challenge, you know, what are the what is the low hanging fruit where if we automate it, if we, you know, add AI, it will save you tons of money, it will make you a lot of money, it will save you stress, whatever that is. And so, then we say, Okay, what kind of Ai do we need here? tagit. ChatGPT is just one form of AI, you know, there are multiple fields in AI, computer vision being, you know, the computer can actually see what we see as human beings. And that is applied in things like self driving cars, or monitoring, monitoring, like, you know, for security purposes, or quality assurance in, in, in manufacturing units. So we actually use computer vision in a, in a project where we recreated 3d models of human feet using computer vision, and which is, you know, which how the 3d model actually helped us create a 3d printed orthotic device, which helps with joint pains. Right, so, s
Debra Chantry-Taylor 22:10
So, beginning I wondered about the joint pain thing?
Manuj Aggarwal 22:13
Yeah, yeah. So. So the underlying fact that we need to realize is that data is the raw ingredient for any type of AI or data analytics, right? So once you have decent amount of data, then these algorithms can really figure out what is going on, it can inform you, and you can, you know, start to make adjustments in your business and your life, whatever that is. So, so yeah, I mean, the misconception that people have is that ChatGPT is AI. But yes, that is a form of AI. But there are other forms of AI. And you can mix and match together to come up with a very compelling solution.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 22:57
It was really interesting. One of the panelists, other days actually talked about the fact that they built robots to go and pick fruit off of trees, because they were having challenges around getting people in from I think, even from Mexico into America to do this work, or whatever it was and, and so they actually developed a technology that not only looks at the fruit sees if it’s right can actually then pick it off the tree, put it in just like a human would do. That still AI is just a different form of AI. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So people worry that, you know, with all this math, because with this AI is is it’s just growing exponentially, right? In terms of what it can actually do. People are kind of worried that i What is this mean, for for me for my job? Business owners probably get a bit excited by it. But then people also don’t well, then what if AI takes over things? Where do we now sit? How do you answer that?
Manuj Aggarwal 23:45
Yeah. See, the thing is that I’ll answer it in two parts. One is that AI is not going to take your job, a person who understands AI will take away your job, right? So just like when the internet started, you know, a lot of people said, oh, you know, what is an email? What’s a website? I don’t need a website, right? But then a few years later, we cannot survive without an email, we cannot survive without the Internet. Today. If you go to a job market, if you apply for a job and say, I don’t know anything about computers, I don’t know how to use internet, how far do you think you’ll get? Right? So it’s the same thing again, where if you don’t know how to use AI as as a as a as a tool to enhance your productivity, somebody else is going to be more competitive than you and they will take away your job. Secondly, we all fear that you know, we have attained certain life, we have attained certain level of skill, we have figured out some solution. And now if AI can do it, then people who used to pay us for that solution are not gonna be able to pay us. But if you flip it, then we can say that we used to sell to people we’ll who did not know something, you know, I’m not making a hierarchy of people, but in terms of their knowledge about a particular topic, we are above them. But if we use AI, we can start to actually sell to people above us. Because now we know more than our level of skill, we all of a sudden, if we use AI, now we become more skillful. And now I can sell to bigger clients, maybe I can, I was selling to people who are small business owners. And now I can go ahead and talk to multinational corporations, because I know more with the help of AI. So we just need to look at opportunities there are there are going to be challenges. But people who give in to that challenge and sort of get scared, they will have, they will have some problems as it happens in every technological advancement. But if people roll up their sleeves, and they say, okay, you know, I’m going to adopt this, and I’m going to see how it can benefit me and others around me, they will actually accelerate so much farther ahead. Especially right now, because we are at the beginning stages right now. So another good example is like, in 1990s, if you started a website, you could literally become a millionaire overnight, like people were throwing money at you. Jeff Bezos started a website, Amazon in 1997. And he became the richest person on the planet, taking over Walmart, which is, which has been around for 100 years. Right? So that’s the impact of technology. So I hope people can get some insight from this and actually jump in and start embracing it, taking baby steps, but but it is it is, it is not something that is harmful, it is actually that will, you know, help us find a lot of solutions to big problems
Debra Chantry-Taylor 26:53
Much more quickly, which is really the important thing. Okay, that’s great. What about those so that they’re going to be, you know, we’ve all seen the movies like AI, where the robots start to get clever, and then the humans and they start to want to take over the world or, or they make decisions that maybe we don’t think are the right decisions, because they’ve done it based on a whole bunch of fat, and we do it based on intuition or emotions. They just want that day come, do you think? Or is that going to work? How’s it gonna play out?
Manuj Aggarwal 27:21
In my opinion, you know, this is unfounded fear, like, first first thing is, people say what if it becomes self aware? Then I asked people, then how do you how many human beings on this planet are self aware? You know, I think it’s like less than 1%, right? So I tell them, Okay, let’s work on the humans first, and then worry about the machines, because the machine will only do what the humans can can ask it to do. And so, before an algorithm that can help a machine become self aware, we need to be self aware, so that I can write an algorithm that makes it right. The other thing is thatthere are millions of species on this planet, right. And there is only one species that which is organized war against each other, and that is human beings. So, once again, that is because of jealousy, that is because of, you know, all these negative emotions, emotional baggage that we carry, as human beings, we do these things. So once again, these these emotions will need to be programmed, or an algorithm will have to be created, which makes AI jealous of another species, or it makes it ambitious, or it makes it you know, malicious. And, and these, these are not, I don’t think an algorithm can encapsulate these type of emotions, these things have to be, you know, embedded in your psyche from generations, you know, and that this is, you know, after going through multiple generations of trauma, it sort of bubbles up as, as a, as, you know, this ugly, ugly manifestation as something like a war or something. So it’s so far fetched to think that AI will have multigenerational trauma like that. Because it’s just like, absurd to me, knowing how humans behave and how AI is programmed.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 29:26
It’s a really interesting point, anything like that, but you’re right. So, I mean, you’re working in this day in day out, and I guess, you know, some of the big companies are that lovely AI service being driven by the big companies and their needs, but how can a smaller, you know, small to midsize company start thinking about where AI AI can add value to their business?
Manuj Aggarwal 29:47
So as I said, you know, that’s a great question. As I said, it’s always every business has challenges. Every business every day has challenges. So I asked the the Business Owner, let’s list down the biggest challenges that you have, you know, is it hiring new people? Is it your company culture? Is it your sales and revenue? Is it your profit margins? Is it security? Whatever that is, let’s, let’s write that down, and now start to work on what AI can do to solve that problem. It’s, it’s always good to start backwards, rather than saying, Okay, where can I fit AI, and make make my company, you know, sort of have this buzzword? Oh, you know, we are using AI, that doesn’t work. So if you if you focus on a problem, let’s say, you want to build culture within your company, and it’s a negative culture, toxic culture, now AI can start to help you by communicating better within your company, understanding people’s sentiment, understanding what people are feeling inside, and why this toxic culture is being created. Is it? Is it a company wide problem? Is it just a few people? So data can tell you all of these things? Right?
Debra Chantry-Taylor 31:07
It’s not really pinpoint things content, so you can actually address the real the real issue. And I suppose you can also use it on the converse side in terms of bringing in new people into the business. How do you make sure the person that says they’re the right fit? Actually, is the right fit? Exactly. Okay. That’s really cool. I think it actually fits in quite nicely with the work that I do. So obviously, we have businesses to bring an operating system as a business. And all we really does, we highlight the issues, and then we have to solve the issues, AI is going to be really important actually helping solving those issues that the companies have. Exactly is exciting. Okay, in terms of, you know, top tips, if you had to sort of, say three things that somebody could walk away from listening to this and go, Hey, what, what can I do immediately? That would make a difference? What would you say?
Manuj Aggarwal 31:50
So, one thing, as I said earlier, like, you know, try this, go to chat, GPT write a story about something that you want to happen in the future, maybe something small, even like, you know, let’s say you want to take a vacation with your family or whatever, write the story and read it out to yourself for a few days and see what happens. And, and, you know, I’d love to know the impact of it. Because it’s very interesting what, what happens when people try it. The second thing is, I’m doing it, I’m writing it down, it’s finished. Yeah. Second thing, I always tell people have, have 20 new conversations with people. So whether that’s inside your company, outside your company, because the more conversations you have, the more you know, insights you will get about your life about your business. And this has nothing to do with AI, by the way. So this is just great business, and human connection. So the more you talk to, let’s say, your employees, so at least 20 new conversations with people you haven’t touched base in or, you know, whatever that is, and ask them, Hey, how’s life? What what’s happening in your life? How, how can I help you. And this will give you so much insight about what is happening in the world around you. Right? The third thing I will say, is just get better at storytelling, because that’s another trait that human mind has evolved to remember stories. And if you want to make yourself memorable, start telling better stories we haven’t we haven’t been taught how to do that in, in our modern education system. But if you start to tell stories, people will start to remember you more vividly, involuntarily, because when you tell a good story, it reminds another person about their experience. And now that story becomes, you know, memorable for them. And, and whenever there is an opportunity for you to work together, do some business together, that story is going to link you up together and you know that that will be beneficial for you.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 34:03
I think that’s absolutely brilliant. I’ve just gotten used to me realize, I think the reason I love these podcasts so much is I actually get to speak to so many different people on a regular basis. And it’s always opening up my mind. You know, there’s things I think I know about and then Sunday, I actually hadn’t even considered that. And you’re right about the storytelling. Because when we read your your web page, and that would destroy that you’ve gone through it automatically. It does, it gets stored away. And you know that at some point, I noticed that was the guy that I was talking to about x y Zed, you know, and that was his story. So brilliant. Okay, thank you. From an AI perspective, how you said, um, I think you’re absolutely right. This is not going to replace humans, but people who really jump on board and learn how to use it will be better equipped to deal with things in the future. Have you got a favorite kind of AI site or an AI newsletter? I don’t know where you find this information. But do you have somewhere that you could recommend or go to where they can keep up to date with what’s going on?
Manuj Aggarwal 34:57
In my opinion, it’s all Always, right now, it’s a Wild Wild West, there’s 1000 tools coming out every day. So my, in my opinion, go with the granddaddy of all chat GPT, you know, just start using chat GPT. Because that will open up the mind, once you start to see the value value of it, our mind automatically starts to create more connections. And, and here’s, here’s the funny part like, you can start to ask these same questions to GPT as well, it will actually start to give you because whatever questions we have, in our mind, we can actually start to say, oh, you know, I can ask GPT to answer that question. Now, the caveat is that if we ask, okay, what which newsletter to follow, it may not be able to give us the answer right now. Because it is, I think it is. The date right has is up to October or September 2021 2021. But very, but very soon they are they are going to be at a place where they have up to date information. And so, so any question that comes in your mind, you can straightaway say, okay, you know, I know how to ask this question. But that’s another thing. You need to get better at asking questions, be very specific on how to ask these questions so you can get the better answer.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 36:15
Now, I think it’s up to you. I actually sort of saw a live demonstration of somebody building a spreadsheet on chat DBT. So if you give it the right instructions, you can actually have this stuff for you. So it’s interesting. So I was under the misconception that was up to 2017. So it’s up to 2021. Now, but it is still only a snapshot up to then I believe the new version that is coming out of chat. GBT is actually going to be pretty much live, isn’t it? It’s scraping live. Yeah. Okay. Good to know. Well, gosh, you know, it’s such an interesting topic. And I think it’s really exciting. I think, I think that, particularly if we just remove it from just being about how do we say things better, but actually, how do we really solve our big challenges? How do we use AI to solve those those biggest challenges and take away some of the labor intensive stuff? That’s when it becomes really exciting?
Manuj Aggarwal 37:04
Yeah.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 37:06
So if people want to find out more about you, where would they go to find that when it’s.
Manuj Aggarwal 37:11
Yeah, so if they want to connect with me, either, you can go to my connection sites, where all my social connections are listed. It’s manage my first name.ca for Canada. So manage.ca, or my website is Manuj Aggarwal, my full name Manuj Aggarwal.com. Or you can find me on LinkedIn, that will be the best. And you can tell me that you heard me on this podcast and let me know how I can help. Now that sounds actually wonderful.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 37:37
Now, in terms of working with people, what kind of people do you work with? I’ve seen some big names on the website, but what is your ideal kind of person that you’d like to work with?
Manuj Aggarwal 37:45
We don’t focus on the size of the company, we focus on what is the mindset of the person, if they are an innovator, if they are a risk taker, if they want to, you know, stay ahead on the bleeding edge of technology, and they want to implement these technologies. Those are the kinds of people we are looking for. Because even if you say we working with small companies, mid companies or large companies, if they are apprehensive about things like AI, if they don’t want to, they don’t want to, like you know, do anything with it, then it doesn’t work. But if they if they are interested in pushing the envelope of the technology and what it can do for them, then it’s very exciting for us to work with them and see, okay, know how we can transform their business.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 38:28
Yeah, that’s great. I look, I know it’s very late in the evening for you because we’re no, we’re very, very different time zones. I want to thank you for actually taking the time this late in the evening and still being so, so vibrant and alive and excited about AI. I really appreciate that. And thank you for sharing your insights. I think that has just been absolutely fabulous. I’ve got some notes here for myself, you know, get that chat GPT to paint the picture for you that you can see where you’re headed. do have those more conversations with people get to understand people better and get better at storytelling. I mean, that they’re just fabulous insights. So thank you so so much for your time.
Manuj Aggarwal 39:01
Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you.
Debra Chantry-Taylor 39:03
My pleasure. Thank you
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Debra Chantry-Taylor
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